@frostwolf: Mhmm. From the before time when we had money to spend. xD

@frostwolf: It's also part of the reason I wanna rebuild things on the server. Hosting stuff for other people on some nice hardware sounds like a good thing.

@doxxy oooh, yeah!

@doxxy Friend-Hosted VPSes. That should be more of a thing.

@frostwolf: The only real issue with hosting from home is the upload speed. 50 Mbps up isn't the fastest thing in the world and collocation costs are astronomical since we'd need 4u of rack space which would be several hundred USD a month minimum.

@doxxy Oof, yeah.

And that'd be effectively 50 Mbps /down/ for anyone hosting servers... game streams might be okay with a few people watching but not with tons.

@doxxy (our game streams are hosted on our VPS and that thing has FAST internet)

@frostwolf: Mhmm. Though we host a whole suite of thingies. Mastodon, Owncast, Pixelfed, Jellyfin, Funkwhale, FreePBX, Matrix, and Nextcloud. That and some random websites that I use or fiddle around with as web dev projects.

@doxxy ooh, wow, nice! Lotsa stuff.

Over here we had Masto, we roll our own streaming, and besides that it's just personal websites. Had a Nextcloud, until it unceremoniously broke and we have no idea what's wrong with it.

@frostwolf: I really want to roll my own for a lot of services as the more software I reach out to use the more I don't like it. xD

@doxxy mooood!

@frostwolf: One example is a basic wiki program I was working on with @foxxy. It essentially ended up being a static site generator so the pages would load pretty much instantly. x3

@doxxy @foxxy Ooo, neat. =^.^= We tend to just write static sites by paw.

@doxxy @foxxy Ylf's CW thing on his blog actually has complicated shit to make it not need JS. :3

It doesn't load the whole article on first page load, though, to make sure the CW's effective.

@frostwolf: Did you use the

@doxxy: Oh, those didn't render for me.

@doxxy yeah I think your poster ate them!

@frostwolf: <details> and <summary> tags?

@doxxy THAT goes!

@frostwolf @doxxy Nah, I didn't use those 'cause they fail open. I wanted to make sure that you don't get a faceful of triggering shit even if you just curl the HTML.

So I have a button-that's-actually-a-link to the same page with ?showmore=1, and then a server that dynamically edits the HTML on the fly before sending to remove the body text if you don't give it that.

@frostwolf @doxxy There's a different ? you can give it to just get /only/ the body text, and a bit of JS that – if JS can load – swaps out what the link does and prefetches the body text on load. Then when you click the button it swaps the preloaded text in.

@frostwolf: That was one of my favorite things to do when I was learning web dev in high school. I thought I could make a living at it one day but it didn't turn out to be a thing for me. xD