Good news: 44,583 usable responses!

Bad news: Responses alone use 4,592,255 cells on Google Sheets, which is 92% of the 5m cell limit, before I even start writing formulae to count everything!

Good news: I've split it into one Sheet per question, and the data is now processed!

Bad news: This means I will definitely have to (*gulp*) learn new software and maybe even upgrade my computer in order to handle next year's responses, assuming they increase at a similar rate.

Good news: Maybe tomorrow I can start writing up the worldwide report for 2021??

Please note, this is very optimistic, I may not manage it because I have a LOT of fatigue today. On the other hand, it might be a pretty effective way to keep me resting on the sofa. 🤔

I wish I could somehow crowdfund "Cassian learns a new software" - no amount of money will make my brain do the thing, you know?

On that note! Statisticians, can you help out?

I'm going to need some software that can handle a LOT of calculations on a fairly average computer, involving probably 50,000 survey responses. The most important factor is user-friendliness.

Any recommendations?


Please use PostgreSQL @gendercensus !
It'll do 50,000 calculations instantly an average computer, or at max 10 secs on a toaster, and save you lots of headaches in the future!

@foxxy Sounds good so far. Can it be used without any coding experience at all?

@gendercensus @foxxy Not particularly. Though depending on how you wanna do it @foxxy and I might be able to assist.

@doxxy @foxxy That's promising! Thank you, I will make a note to look into it when it's not late o'clock!

@gendercensus @doxxy @foxxy I too would be willing to extend assistance there!

One thing I'd point out here, philosophically, is that Excel is a program designed to trick you into thinking you're not "coding" when you use it. SQL is much more nakedly 'code', but it's very much the same type of code as Excel formulas; more of your current skills will transfer than you might think.

@Nentuaby @gendercensus @doxxy @foxxy SQL for a statistics problem is very much a "if I have a hammer, everything looks like a nail."

Vanilla SQL doesn't do much in terms of visualization, summary statistics, or hypothesis testing. And since smartsurvey delivers results in CSV and SPSS, there's little reason to go into SQL for this sort of thing.

@cbrachyrhynchos @Nentuaby @gendercensus @foxxy This is probably why r lang and julia was mentioned. Lots of tools there for easy data visualization.

@cbrachyrhynchos @Nentuaby @gendercensus @doxxy @foxxy This. I spend a fair bit of time at work banging on SQL to make it do stuff that everyone wishes we could just do in R, it's bad, you should not do data analysis with SQL unless a whole-ass extremely stubborn corporate IT bureaucracy has tied your hands to the keyboard to make you.

It will also be much easier to download RStudio than to set up a postgres server.

@cbrachyrhynchos @Nentuaby @gendercensus @doxxy @foxxy That said, even though R is a fine way to start learning to code, with a lot of tutorials available geared very specifically towards people with no coding experience who want to analyze some data... it is still coding.

MS Excel will support the amount of data you're talking about.

@mcmoots @cbrachyrhynchos @Nentuaby @doxxy @foxxy

"MS Excel will support the amount of data you're talking about."

It sounds like I probably just need to get a computer that can cope with it then, rather yhsn it being a software issue. Thanks for all the info!

@gendercensus @cbrachyrhynchos @Nentuaby @doxxy @foxxy I mean, R would be absolutely fine with that much data on a crappy old machine. So if you aren't able to source a new computer that's still an option. But yeah, sometimes the cheapest way to pay for something is with money.

@mcmoots @cbrachyrhynchos @Nentuaby @doxxy @foxxy The most important factor is user-friendliness, I have zero experience with code and I'm not able to learn it on demand solo, so going with a program that's more familiar is more likely to succeed I think! :)

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